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without features that few people are going to use
Every KDE user has shaken the mouse once just to see how big it gets, this is a critical feature!
yeah, I have a 65" TV connected and it gets comically large. I wouldn’t be nearly as productive without it.
Doesn’t work for me in KDE anymore???
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It stopped working because I switched back to X11, it only works in Wayland, but I had to switch back, I think it was because some hot keys don’t work and can’t be configured under Wayland. Or at least couldn’t when I configured my system about a year ago.The secret reason Wayland is superior.
Unfortunately I had to switch back to X11 because Plasma on Wayland lacked a feature I need.
Well, now X11 lacks a feature you want…
At last we found a killer feature for its users!
I use it probably ten times a day!
Now that I think about it, I should shake the cursor in KDE more.
Beeeg
That was the thing I texted my friends about when I started using KDE. 😄 I loved it, perfect self-affording feature.
I knew the cursor got bigger but I didn’t know it would keep growing.
It all depends on the stimulation.
if your cursor enlarges for over 4 hours please see a doctor
That way they can admire it too
It jumps up quickly to a bigger size and then keeps increasing more slowly if you keep shaking it.
I’ve never even tried this, but now I’m gonna have to give it a whirl.
Super useful for if, like myself, you lose track of your cursor quite often.
“He can’t see us if we don’t move.”
Except that I usually AM moving it…just sometimes ADHD brain goes:
OMFG! WHAT’S THAT OVER THERE!
And then I have no idea where the cursor is even when I’m moving it. I had no idea about the cursor enlargement effect until one day my mouse ran out of battery and wasn’t waking up fast enough, so I was clicking and moving it back and forth really fast…got a bit of a fright when it suddenly got several times larger.
I’d honestly would expect to have a mouse locator. I think on Windows that was the alt key or something like that.
My setup doesn’t have anything like that, but I also see roughly where the mouse is since my tilingmanager gives focus to the window the cursor is over
If Gnome ran a restaurant, the waiter chooses the meal for you, and tut & shake their head if you try to deviate from it.
If KDE ran a restaurant, if you shake the menu it’ll grow exponentially in size until it fills the restaurant.The Gnome waiter just stares in shock and confusion when you mention that you have nut allergy
Are you implying GNOME is the ableist desktop environment? It might be even though it has lots of accessibility features.
Implication or not. GNOME is hit or miss with accessibility features. They’ve done some stuff, but they could still do more at no particular greater cost to them other than a shift in attitude. Which…you know… GNOME.
If Gnome ran a restaurant, the waiter chooses the meal for you, and tut & shake their head if you try to deviate from it.
And if you want to add salt and pepper to your meal, there’s a convenient store across the street that sells salt and pepper shakers. No, the Gnome restaurant will not be providing them.
The gnome type of restaurant is called prix fixe, and it very much exists.
Yes, and 99.9% of the meals you eat in your life will not be there. Because it is either prohibitively expensive and elitist gourmet BS. Or it is trivially easy to offer some choice when it is not elitist gourmet BS.
Even at a more mundane restaurant, only having one meal for each course to worry about drastically simplifies life for the entire back line, plus it makes life easier for the chef or whoever does the ordering as well.
Even low fixed price day-menu restaurants in my town offer some basic choice or variation. People have food limitations and preferences.
I’ve been to a restaurant in Korea where you pay per person and they just serve you one main dish (you have no choice) and like 8 unlimited side dishes
It was about $5 and you had a choice of topping up or not. It was great, actually
Cool, having choices is great, like you get to choose the side dishes and the toppings. That sounds awesome.
That type of restaurant tends to be among the best in the world.
Which makes sense. If each day you offer one choice you can make that one really good.
But for someone who doesn’t like that specific food it doesn’t work. They’d prefer having different options.
Kind of similar with gnome and KDE.
The difference is, most people go to a restaurant to eat food, so the restaurant can get really good at making food that humans eat.
People use a computer system to do all kinds of things. It is a lot harder to make one choice that will please everybody.
GNOME’s design philosophy is “we’ve determined that nobody needs this feature”.
KDE’s is “we’ve determined that nobody needs this feature… but it would be really cool, fuck it, we
ballcube”.fuck it, we
ballcubeThis is KDE we’re talking about, so it would definitely be “fuck it, we kube”.
Klitoris
“we’ve determined that nobody needs this feature”
How? Trust me bro! Users hate features, they get all confused and stuff. That’s why nobody should ever choose anything, the OS should just be shit forever. We also get paid by Microsoft and IBM coincidentally.
We also get paid by Microsoft and IBM coincidentally.
Microsoft and IBM both donate to the Linux Foundation itself. They are both platinum members who regularly give them funds for all kinds of projects. This is really idiotic gotcha attempt.
A donation isn’t quite the same as pay (as in salary)! I’m thinking of Miguel de Icaza and Lennart Poettering, for example.
Well who needs systrays anyways? While we’re at it, let’s remove theming support too! Surely nobody would miss that feature?
I really miss KDE. Sadly my experience with new major versions (5, 6) tends to be that plasma is unstable for daily use for at least a year or two. I’ll be back once things settle down a bit.
Plasma 6 has been nothing but great for me! Not a single crash ever since it released. It’s nothing like the beginning of Plasma 5
“It implements client-side decorations, or it gets the hose again!”
Kde’s mouse growing big is actually useful though.
Ever lose your mouse? Just a wiggle- which is an action I take anyway to find it- and it gets easier to find, for a moment.
Lets me make the mouse tiny.
Yes, and the low-resolution pointer when you do this excessively is just unacceptable. I’m glad they’re finally addressing this pressing concern.
The just added a high res image or whatever rather than scaling it up. Someone probably fixed it in their spare time.
What? Why isn’t it just a vector graphic?
Because it uses the XCursor format, which is a quite old standard. Getting apps to switch to a newer standard that has vector graphics is already hard enough. Getting them to do so without burning your GPU is basically impossible.
The massive cursor during shake is literally what sold two of my friends on Garuda getting them off Windows 😂 idk why I guess the wimsy factor is difficult to account for.
The cube thing from compiz had a similar effect back in the earlier years of Ubuntu.
Compiz was insanely cool, it was better than anything we have today.
I use burn my windows and desktop cube with Gnome extensions. Kwin still supports many of these effects too. It’s fun to see people’s reaction.
Wait until they find it you can make the windows wiggle when you shake them.
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I will update as soon as I have found my cursor on my 4k screen.
KDE wins again
I have an old box running Gnome on Ubuntu. I did a massive update hoping they finally fixed some of my gripes with it.
still no right click -> create text file in the file browser
Welp, I’ll update again in two years
holy frick I love KDE. Looking forward to what they do next.
KDE forever. I don’t understand anyone who still uses Gnome.
i agree kde is awesome
Calling Gnome simple and straightforward is quite a funny joke actually
But ar least it’s without features that
fewpeople are going to use, so there’s that.
Guys chillax, there is only one respecting winner here; Thumbs down, XFCE.
Customising (not gonna say the racist word)?..XFCE.
Lightweight?..XFCE.
Can look like the other two?..XFCE.
Can be debloated even in the settings?..XFCE.
Supports both X11 and wayland (if that matters)?..XFCE.
written by: (hopefully) fellow XFCE glazer.
P.S. Yes I mean that sarcastic/non-sarcastic. Yes I’m in my own bubble. Yes I use systemd free systems (and waiting for a good glibc-free one too!). Yes I’m autistic.
Isnt xfce less lightweight than KDE? Just because it looks like shit doesnt make it efficient.
No it isn’t. Unless KDE has had a major debloat since KDE4. XFCE is lightning fast.
They have similar ram usage profiles and similar cpu usage. That on top of the KDE having a ton of extra functionally is why I say KDE is more efficient. Maybe its not the case if the machine has no GPU to offload to. The benchmark wasnt super indepth.
well, if they are indeed using similar amounts of cpu (my idle XFCE shows in top at a steady 0.3%, I have a hard time believing KDE can do that), then someone did indeed tweak KDE. When I last used it, KDE3 was freshly out and I hated the UI, so I stopped using it - only to realise that I had been missing out on a lightning fast Window Manager.
However, that extra functionality may or may not be useful to people.
The only thing that would make me consider switching would be if a window manager offered to organise multiple desktops on the inner(!) surface of a cube and I could swap environments having a concept of up, down, left, right, front, back.
You could be more right than I thought. Usually it can go one of two ways: underdeveloped or respectively efficient
But while yes, XFCE may look like the left behind friend in highschool, who still lives in the cellar of their mom, I’d expect that it is left that way on purpose. It has many adaptable features and can be debloated to near any extent.
(skip this part if you don’t need a life story) I personally fell in love with it 'cause I was on multiple MASSIVE hysteria-hypetrains of Tiling WMs and diy distros (etc.) but never completed my journey due to my failed efforts and patience running out.
Now after many rabbitholes of “systemd-free”, “glibc-free”, “debloated”, (list goes on) I learned to accept that I don’t get everything and made compromises with myself to settle with a not-half-bad (or not-half-good) distro with XFCE.
Yes you need a bit of good knowledge of Linux and especially file systems to use this to the fullest and not just as a nearly pre-given and pre-customised DE (like swapping cursors or fiddling with lightdm (basically sddm)), but when that’s the best you get, take it.
P.S. I may be a glazer of all of these things but I can assure you I’ll be at a slightly different point of things in about half a year again ('cause’ve another rabbithole ofc).
P.P.S. For reference I use PeppermintOS (devuan based) which, hates me, I hate it (…sometimes), but it fixes itself if you do the groundwork (don’t ask me how, it just does).
(sry for the monologue)
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I don’t need this feature even a little bit.
In lieu of this, I have consistently used this feature at least twice a week ever since I found it by accident. It adds a little joy to my day.
I think it’s more “I found a thing that’s technically wrong and fixed it” and that shit pays dividends down the road when technology changes and people forget this was ever an issue. They solved it now so they don’t have to solve it later.
Gnome tries to be Apple but even worse
