Which is why very shortly after I found homassistant, I moved all my sensors/devices over and decommissioned my smartthings bridge and never looked back.
I was excited for 30 seconds until I downloaded it and realized it isn’t the same as my smart things app where I can just add my TV to it and just turn it on and off when my x box doesn’t. But it looks like you have to set up a whole server config to get it working.
You can buy a Home Assistant hub which is a raspberry that comes with Home Assistant on it. It’s designed to be mostly plug and play, but isn’t near the simplicity of SmartThings yet.
Once it’s setup, a lot of devices can be just added and go. I’ve got my LG TV added and can turn it on, off, change inputs, etc. I have way more powerful automations and more devices on HA than I ever could on SmartThings.
Depends on your comfort level and interest level
I’m in IT. Do this for a living. Don’t want to do this at home. Smart things is a free app that lets me click to turn on my TV. But that device may be useful for someone that wants to tinker and do more things.
That’s what I’m working towards right now. We just sold our home and I left all my SmartThings installed for the new guy.
Every third party cloud is going to do a heel turn one day and extort their users.
Well, glad I walked away from SmartThings a couple of years ago. Went with Home Assistant and have never looked back.
At the time I remember being concerned about whether they were going to kill SmartThings off or start charging a subscription as the hub called home for everything. Server time costs and they weren’t charging for it. TANSTAFL. Kinda surprised it’s still alive at all
Just good motivation to migrate your zwave devices to a local USB stick.
A lot of SmartThings devices are not using Zwave, but like ovens connect via WiFi and communicate over their cloud
What the fuck do I need to connect my oven to my smarthome for?
Been running Home Assistant for years. never once have I ever considered adding shit like my oven or fridge. The hell would I learn? Ovens get hot, fridges get cold? I could put a temp sensor in the fridge I guess and it would read the same temp all the time. Unless it is a total POS, it’s not going to stop doing the ONE thing it does.
In theory, it would be great to have your smart home be able to preheat your oven. Or to turn it off if you forgot to do so.
I doubt any of these stop there though
Seems great in theory and am pretty sure mine could. However the first thing I enabled was “no remote control”. It’s a dangerous idea to allow anyone to turn on the oven when no one is home. It’s a dangerous idea to trust the security of an appliance vendor with the safety of your family
Actually I’m annoyed that it is a binary choice. I don’t want to let anyone turn on the stovetop/oven unattended. But I would prefer to be able to turn it off remotely if someone does. But disabling “burn down the house” mode also disables “stop it before it happens”
It probably helps that this oven preheats very quickly. I don’t see being tempted to save a minute or two
And as for fridges I’d love if mine would report real (not just set) temperature. I’d learn about it failing last time it did, before it defrosted.
@spitfire @aaaa My freezer has a door alarm. Great! Although… The door wasn’t completely closed. Sufficiently closed for the alarm to think it was though. And while it’s smart freezer (that’s not allowed online) it’s not smart enough to notice that the inside temperature is now above freezing. Remove the wifi gunk and add rudimentary safety features like this please!
That would be useful.
Well you just have to learn the lesson of not buying cloud connected smarthome stuff the hard way sometimes.
It is not critical by any means, utility of a dual-cook oven is nice, even when it’s not connected to smart home. And so doubt I should be getting any „lesson” from home appliances manufacturer, they should NOT be taking any functionality away. And I don’t believe there are many local only options (are there any you can list for this appliance type?).
Oven Model Supported Local Protocol(s) Samsung Bespoke AI 7 Series Single Wall Oven ( NV51CB700S12AA)Matter 1.3 Samsung Bespoke AI Single Wall Oven ( NV51CG700SSR)Matter 1.3 Samsung Series 7 Dual Cook Steam Oven ( NV7B7997AAK)Matter 1.3 Bosch Series 8 Built-In Oven ( HBG7741B1)Matter 1.3, Home Connect Local Bosch Series 8 Single Steam Oven ( HSG7364B1B)Matter 1.3, Home Connect Local Bosch Series 8 Built-in Steam Oven ( HSG7361B1)Home Connect Local Bosch Serie 8 Pyrolytic Oven ( HRG6767S2A)Home Connect Local Siemens iQ700 Built-In Oven ( HB676GBS1)Home Connect Local Siemens iQ700 Combi-Steam Oven ( HN678G4S6)Home Connect Local Miele H 7000 Series Oven ( H 7260 BP)Miele@LAN Miele H 7000 Series Oven ( H 7464 BP)Miele@LAN Miele H 7000 Series Oven ( H 7860 BP)Miele@LAN Thanks for the list! What do they communicate over? Some proprietary protocol locally over WiFi, or are there any matter/Zigbee options?
The protocol is shown in the right hand column. Matter over thread, the rest over wifi.
Sorry, I’ve missed the columns when looking at it on my phone
Never buy anything that needs to be online to function
What about cars ?
Nah. Online functionality is great for lots of things.
optional online functionality. I don’t want my HA stuff, all on the same local network, to refuse to function because some random ass server somewhere isn’t working.
