• spitfire@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      A lot of SmartThings devices are not using Zwave, but like ovens connect via WiFi and communicate over their cloud

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        4 months ago

        Well you just have to learn the lesson of not buying cloud connected smarthome stuff the hard way sometimes.

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          4 months ago

          It is not critical by any means, utility of a dual-cook oven is nice, even when it’s not connected to smart home. And so doubt I should be getting any „lesson” from home appliances manufacturer, they should NOT be taking any functionality away. And I don’t believe there are many local only options (are there any you can list for this appliance type?).

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            4 months ago
            Oven Model Supported Local Protocol(s)
            Samsung Bespoke AI 7 Series Single Wall Oven (NV51CB700S12AA) Matter 1.3
            Samsung Bespoke AI Single Wall Oven (NV51CG700SSR) Matter 1.3
            Samsung Series 7 Dual Cook Steam Oven (NV7B7997AAK) Matter 1.3
            Bosch Series 8 Built-In Oven (HBG7741B1) Matter 1.3, Home Connect Local
            Bosch Series 8 Single Steam Oven (HSG7364B1B) Matter 1.3, Home Connect Local
            Bosch Series 8 Built-in Steam Oven (HSG7361B1) Home Connect Local
            Bosch Serie 8 Pyrolytic Oven (HRG6767S2A) Home Connect Local
            Siemens iQ700 Built-In Oven (HB676GBS1) Home Connect Local
            Siemens iQ700 Combi-Steam Oven (HN678G4S6) Home Connect Local
            Miele H 7000 Series Oven (H 7260 BP) Miele@LAN
            Miele H 7000 Series Oven (H 7464 BP) Miele@LAN
            Miele H 7000 Series Oven (H 7860 BP) Miele@LAN
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              4 months ago

              Thanks for the list! What do they communicate over? Some proprietary protocol locally over WiFi, or are there any matter/Zigbee options?

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        4 months ago

        What the fuck do I need to connect my oven to my smarthome for?

        Been running Home Assistant for years. never once have I ever considered adding shit like my oven or fridge. The hell would I learn? Ovens get hot, fridges get cold? I could put a temp sensor in the fridge I guess and it would read the same temp all the time. Unless it is a total POS, it’s not going to stop doing the ONE thing it does.

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          4 months ago

          In theory, it would be great to have your smart home be able to preheat your oven. Or to turn it off if you forgot to do so.

          I doubt any of these stop there though

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            4 months ago

            Seems great in theory and am pretty sure mine could. However the first thing I enabled was “no remote control”. It’s a dangerous idea to allow anyone to turn on the oven when no one is home. It’s a dangerous idea to trust the security of an appliance vendor with the safety of your family

            Actually I’m annoyed that it is a binary choice. I don’t want to let anyone turn on the stovetop/oven unattended. But I would prefer to be able to turn it off remotely if someone does. But disabling “burn down the house” mode also disables “stop it before it happens”

            It probably helps that this oven preheats very quickly. I don’t see being tempted to save a minute or two

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            4 months ago

            And as for fridges I’d love if mine would report real (not just set) temperature. I’d learn about it failing last time it did, before it defrosted.

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              @spitfire @aaaa My freezer has a door alarm. Great! Although… The door wasn’t completely closed. Sufficiently closed for the alarm to think it was though. And while it’s smart freezer (that’s not allowed online) it’s not smart enough to notice that the inside temperature is now above freezing. Remove the wifi gunk and add rudimentary safety features like this please!