Correct. That is the joke. In the comic.

I’m saying that whomever modified this comic (which is about overestimating normies) overestimated the normies during the editing proccess, by skipping over Android and iOS (which implies that the editor assumed normies would know them).

It’s sort of a meta-joke.

Actually, the joke was that experts assume normies would know BSDs and Linux. The fact of it is, most normies don’t know any OS.

My point was that whomever edited the comic was actually overestimating the average person’s knowledge. They assumed normies know any OS, even the ones most folks use daily (Android or iOS).

They simply don’t know what an OS is. To them, the UI is simply part of the phone; it’s a package deal.

Most people actually probably don’t know what an operating system is.

Just as accurately, the meme could be:

“[…] the average person probably only knows Android, iOS, Windows, and MacOS.”
“And Linux, of course.”
“Of course.”

The thing is, all of these old and respected projects existed before LLMs. It’s pretty easy to just… ban LLM usage on a project.

Yes; I was absolutely crestfallen when I caught wind of it being tAInted.

I’m currently investigating alternatives. Redox is anti-AI, but written in Rust. Haiku isn’t really suitable for most folks as a daily driver. ReactOS is basically a toy, and is tAInted anyways.

Of the BSDs, FreeBSD and OpenBSD are both tAInted; Hyperbola is still using Linux-Libre; NetBSD itself is untAInted, but uses GCC (if I recall correctly), and one of its forks, MirBSD, is in the same boat.

If I can build NetBSD using an alternative compiler toolchain, then that would be an excellent starting point for a new OS.

I say “yes”, with one exception: if they remove the offending code, the project (as a whole) is no longer tAInted.

And yeah; there are pure projects. NetBSD’s kernel is currently untAInted, but some things in the project (like GCC) are.

You misunderstand me. Rust is tAInted. “AI” is used in its development.

very true for cs in general :3

i wish Rust wasn’t tainted by ai :/

I really need to do better about reading through configs on my favourite software. Thanks!

oh i thought you meant better mouse support for nano. like being able to properly select and delete text etc.

ohh okay cool

ohhh that’s the package manager for fedora?

What’s rpm?

I now know what I’ll name a kernel and userland if I ever write them :3

Mouse support‽ How?

Yeah, I think so. But then again, I’m obsessed with making my system minimal-ish.

The issue to me is that the LLMs used to generate said parts are trained on code from all of the internet without regard for licenses or legal restrictions—in short: it is stolen code.

I am of the opinion that this goes directly against copyleft ideals, like those of the GPL etc., by allowing corporations to take software under “restrictive” licenses* and exfiltrate them as proprietary, copyright software.

* i.e. ones that would require them to actually contribute to FLOSS instead of leaching off of it

I really like pkgsrc too, but pacman (+ AUR) has so much software! It’s pretty tough choice, honestly.

For those who seek in the depths below for the bottom of the iceberg…

TempleOS