Here’s info on what’s up and the workaround if you still want to. You may have an easier time than me if you have more experience with this sort of thing.

https://forums.truenas.com/t/nvidia-compatible-driver-test-for-truenas-25-10-goldeye/53395

The NVIDIA 50-series Blackwell cards require the use of the new open GPU kernel module, but several of NVIDIA’s older generations of GPUs - including the Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta generations - lack the GPU System Processor (GSP) module on their silicon in order to leverage the open kernel module, and thus will no longer function. This includes the GTX 700-series, 900-GTX series, GTX 10-series, the Quadro M-series and P-series, and Tesla M-series and P-series cards.

Here’s the detail. Sounds like the support for the new cards messed up the old cards, but it sounds like they might be working on a comparability fix. I use open drivers on some other systems. I don’t remember why I didn’t consider that a option here. This server has lived many lives and it’s mission continues to change and refocus all the time. Thanks for the reply.

A bit, I would have to weigh the cost of a $100 GTX 1660 vs a $300 GTX 3060 (US, based on my local used prices). $100 might buy me a few years, $300 might buy me a few more years, but could also buy me a dud or a burnout card. I think I might give the weaker card a try and save the money so I can avoid a mortgage the next time I need to upgrade a laptop. :D

Thanks for the suggestion. I looked into the P series cards a bit and here is what I found:

The NVIDIA 50-series Blackwell cards require the use of the new open GPU kernel module, but several of NVIDIA’s older generations of GPUs - including the Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta generations - lack the GPU System Processor (GSP) module on their silicon in order to leverage the open kernel module, and thus will no longer function. This includes the GTX 700-series, 900-GTX series, GTX 10-series, the Quadro M-series and P-series, and Tesla M-series and P-series cards.

Looks like the 16xx is the lowest cards supported by TrueNAS without extra work. There’s a few used 1660s in my area for ~$100. I might give that a try. If it doesn’t work out, I won’t be despairing for weeks about a $100 card, and if it does work, I’ll replace one of the 1080s with a 1660 for TrueNAS to use as an apps card and leave the other 1080 to pass through to the VM for Home Assistant. That said, I’m still open to options, so if anyone thinks I’m silly for considering this, tell me what you think.

The A2000 came up as an option a few times. It’s more expensive and mildly more capable, though a commenter on that loser Spez’s site said they had stability issues due to it being a workstation card. I’m not playing games, so I may not run into the same issues.

I’ve considered Proxmox, and know a few people who use it, but I think the added features, complexity, learning something new, might be too much for me right now. There’s a lot going on in my life, in my family and in my country and my human operating system is struggling to free up resources. Long term though, this is the goal. I don’t know if I have the drives lying around to build a new machine and migrate everything at the moment anyway. If I recall correctly, Proxmox doesn’t use ZFS. Migrating truenas is theoretically as easy as backing up my config file and password seeds and reinstalling, it seems to just pick up the hardware on the next boot. I’m just not sure if I have options outside the typical gamer cards like RTX.

Did you have any exposure in Linux before eventually switching, or did you just step straight from the Windows world into the great Linux unknown?

Windows 3.1 has a bit of a fond spot in my heart. Even though we didn’t have 3.1 at home, the school computer lab used it. We used to scare the teacher by typing “dir stat” or something like that into the terminal to make the text scroll like we were hacking stuff in a movie 🤣 (she didn’t know anything about computers, just there to make sure we didn’t run off with them). I also recall those colorful all-in-one Macintosh computers making an appearance at a different school.

I’m a year or so longer on my self-hosting journey than you, but also get humbled like a noob on a regular basis. I was a Linux user for over a decade when I first started self-hosting but I knew nothing about networking because I always lived places where someone else managed the internet. I’ve learned a lot since then, but I have a lot left to learn. It really does take time to get a comprehensive understanding of what you are doing and why, but the good news is you can learn a lot through osmosis and we are already doing it just by being here.

I think “$hell-shocked” might work.

'Muricans are so racist, we heard “orange chicken” and thought they were talking about China. 🤣

I do think we’ll end up scrambling for alternatives at some point, so better to do it now.

I see that now. I must have missed it in my excitement. Thanks!

Does this have a heat overlay? As in, can I see which routes I take most commonly my filtering and overlaying a years worth of data? That’s the only thing that’s kept me on Strava. I know there are a few open source tools, but nothing has looked this complete for me. This looks super cool.

Yeah, I bought a Dell laptop for that reason. Turns out the spec I wanted wasn’t available with Linux preinstalled, so I had to buy the Windows machine and install it myself anyway. At least I never had any real driver issues or anything else like that. Laptop lasted 10+ years running Linux practically the entire time.

Props to any OEM who supports Linux, bigger props to anyone who ships Linux preinstalled, biggest props to those who favor Linux by default and charge extra to install Windows or refuse to do it outright!

People would rather talk in code and self-sensor than dump a fascist platform because that would be incoventient.

I think they’d love it if all us poor’s died of preventable disease, violent crime, died in their wars, starved to death in food deserts, or willingly subjugated ourselves to become their servants and concubines. If only the rich are left, then essentially the game starts over again.

The enlightened poors want to remove the top 10% of the pyramid; the rich don’t care what happens to the bottom 90% as long as they get to keep growing their money, power, and control.

If we stop buying their products, stop working in their businesses, stop consuming their media, and start reappropriating their assets, the balance of power would shift very quickly.

Having said that, I’m a hypocrite who bought something off Amazon in the last 3 months, works for a megacorp, and continues to use big tech in many aspects of my life out of convenience. I’ve maybe made 20% of the changes I need to make to feel happy about my level of ideological purity and I have an advantage because I understand computers, philosophy, and politics better than most normies in my life.