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Cake day: June 9th, 2023

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  • The problem most preppers experience is that the apocalypse is gradual, not sudden. Or, they prepared for the wrong apocalypse. Or, other people are not treating the apocalypse the way they expected / should.

    If things get so bad that urban / suburban dwellers are concerned with growing food, things are already pretty messed up. If supermarkets and/or emergency food relief aren’t keeping people fed, then people are going to get desperate. At that point, the people who are OK aren’t the ones who have solar panels, food stores, weapons, and so-on. The people who are OK are the ones who are willing and able to use violence against other people to take their solar panels, food stores, weapons, and so-on. IMO even preppers who own guns and train to use them will often not have the ruthlessness to actually kill someone when push comes to shove, not unless they’ve been trained / brainwashed / traumatized into being able to do that.

    So, for me, I keep enough food and drink for a few days. If there’s a situation that lasts longer than that, I also have friends, and will go stay with them if things are better for them. I want enough power so I can keep from getting bored for a few days. I don’t need to be able to run heavy appliances. If civilization collapses, I’m not fooling myself into thinking I can survive that. I’m not a warlord, I don’t know anybody who would become a warlord, I don’t think I could make myself useful to a warlord, and I don’t think I could fight off a warlord and their gang.


  • buying peace of mind when it comes to self sufficient power generation has no price tag

    $10,000? $100,000? 75% of your salary for the rest of your life?

    It obviously does have a price tag at some point. If someone wanted true self-sufficiency they’d have to get a full solar setup plus a generator in case the grid went down at a time when solar power wasn’t covering the needs. (That’s likely if, for example, your power is knocked out due to wildfires, and the wildfire smoke is making the solar setup unable to produce power.)

    And, you can’t really consider yourself fully self-sufficient when it comes to electrical power unless you have a n+1 setup, so you have a backup generator in case the primary one fails and needs to be repaired.