Also Sony buying Nixxes… then deciding they don’t want to do PC ports anymore. These companies are clueless.

They do disclose it, it’s part of the paperwork when you purchase the vehicle.

https://support.toyota.com/s/article/Toyota-Insurance?language=en_US

Of course the dealers make it very easy to “opt-in” by accident.

The fact that it’s out in the open, literally on the car manufacturer sites, but people still deny this behavior, is a grim omen.

They sell driving habits and other informatics to insurance companies at the very least, this is publicly known.

Hiding? Modern vehicles straight up have cell modems and advertise it, look up Toyota Connected Services for example.

Imagine how much more they could’ve just paid employees.

Do you think DoS/DDoS activities should be criminal?

If you’re a site operator and the mass AI scraping is genuinely causing operational problems (not hard to imagine, I’ve seen what it does to my hosted repositories pages) should there be recourse? Especially if you’re actively trying to prevent that activity (revoking consent in cookies, authorization captchas).

In general I think the idea of “your right to swing your fists ends at my face” applies reasonably well here — these AI scraping companies are giving lots of admins bloody noses and need to be held accountable.

I really am amenable to arguments wrt the right to an open web, but look at how many sites are hiding behind CF and other portals, or outright becoming hostile to any scraping at all; we’re already seeing the rapid death of the ideal because of these malicious scrapers, and we should be using all available recourse to stop this bleeding.

When sites put challenges like Anubis or other measures to authenticate that the viewer isn’t a robot, and scrapers then employ measures to thwart that authentication (via spoofing or other means) I think that’s a reasonable violation of the CFAA in spirit — especially since these mass scraping activities are getting attention for the damage they are causing to site operators (another factor in the CFAA, and one that would promote this to felony activity.)

The fact is these laws are already on the books, we may as well utilize them to shut down this objectively harmful activity AI scrapers are doing.

When a firm outright admits to bypassing or trying to bypass measures taken to keep them out, you think that would be a slam dunk case of unauthorized access under the CFAA with felony enhancements.