Describe the problem and how to avoid it. Otherwise you’re just a fucking scum-sucking fuckhead defeatist loser like everyone else who pretended they had a point.
Your ideas don’t have to be sound. Though they must demonstrate your willingness to abandon the status quo.
So tell us; Is your mind greater than the status quo, or not?
One would expect an industrial workers union to have industrial workers in the union. Given they pay a % of their paychecks you’d also expect that industrial workers are to be the centre focus. Except when you go to their website it’s countless photos of activist kids protesting things completely unrelated to industrial workers unionisation. I dont think I saw a single photo of anything remotely industrial but many photos of soft handed people holding signs in a central city park.
When I was in a trade union the people running it werent kids out of college. It was wives of trades or retired tradies. The focus wasnt socialism, wasnt leftism, wasnt isreal Palestine. It was certifications, standard pay rates and working conditions.
The whole thing is a scam. Go through their site they have like 5 articles registering the same small book stores and cafes. My local branch is a fucking joke not a single actual thing about unions they just want people to do their communist revolution larp.
Alright, I appreciate that instead of union activity, they’re into political activity. When you said ‘soft handed’, did you mean those who do no work need not have union, or those employed in clerical work do not deserve union? A sickle/hammer chauvinism over keyboard?
Why on earth would you think I’m saying those who do no work dont need a union or clerical work doesnt deserve a union. Seems like you’re intentionally missing the point.
People who work with their hands vs people who dont.
Given that their whole union is based on industrial workers its pretty weird for them to not be industrial workers or adjacent in anyway. Im pretty sure this is a scam.
Yea assuming they actually pursued workers rights and benefits. I have two problems with them. They are larping as an industrial union and they dont do any worker advocacy. Its just a political org using unions as a front.
I have seen my local chapter advertising. Guess where they are advertising, right in the cbd as if any fucking industrial workers are in the cbd. Ive driven through the industrial areas(only 15mins drive away) not a single poster. It should be the uni student and cafe worker union.
Industrial unions ran by activist kids from the city aren’t workers unions. They’re just leeching
laughs as a wobbly himself. we legit help local folks get strong enough to transition into “real” unions.
Not if you’re supporting policies that import scab labour you’re not.
and what policies are those? no scabs here, that im aware of.
Describe the problem and how to avoid it. Otherwise you’re just a fucking scum-sucking fuckhead defeatist loser like everyone else who pretended they had a point.
Your ideas don’t have to be sound. Though they must demonstrate your willingness to abandon the status quo.
So tell us; Is your mind greater than the status quo, or not?
rofl… “you cannot be a real union; there are no rich kids amongst you!”
… You’re a fucking clown.
I believe “activist kids from the city” means he’s calling the IWW the rich kids.
So activists are all entitled and can be dismissed as a whole?
So nothing rich fuckheads say has power until they’re past dead?
Both aspects bear meaning, but only one side of the coin bears extra suffering.
I said the opposite you fucking spoon
What?
One would expect an industrial workers union to have industrial workers in the union. Given they pay a % of their paychecks you’d also expect that industrial workers are to be the centre focus. Except when you go to their website it’s countless photos of activist kids protesting things completely unrelated to industrial workers unionisation. I dont think I saw a single photo of anything remotely industrial but many photos of soft handed people holding signs in a central city park.
When I was in a trade union the people running it werent kids out of college. It was wives of trades or retired tradies. The focus wasnt socialism, wasnt leftism, wasnt isreal Palestine. It was certifications, standard pay rates and working conditions.
The whole thing is a scam. Go through their site they have like 5 articles registering the same small book stores and cafes. My local branch is a fucking joke not a single actual thing about unions they just want people to do their communist revolution larp.
Alright, I appreciate that instead of union activity, they’re into political activity. When you said ‘soft handed’, did you mean those who do no work need not have union, or those employed in clerical work do not deserve union? A sickle/hammer chauvinism over keyboard?
Why on earth would you think I’m saying those who do no work dont need a union or clerical work doesnt deserve a union. Seems like you’re intentionally missing the point.
Just wanted to know what you meant by ‘soft handed’ and why you brought that up?
People who work with their hands vs people who dont.
Given that their whole union is based on industrial workers its pretty weird for them to not be industrial workers or adjacent in anyway. Im pretty sure this is a scam.
So, if it were called something like ‘All Workers Union’, it’s alright?
Yea assuming they actually pursued workers rights and benefits. I have two problems with them. They are larping as an industrial union and they dont do any worker advocacy. Its just a political org using unions as a front.
I have seen my local chapter advertising. Guess where they are advertising, right in the cbd as if any fucking industrial workers are in the cbd. Ive driven through the industrial areas(only 15mins drive away) not a single poster. It should be the uni student and cafe worker union.